tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post6960807524536173722..comments2024-01-12T00:32:20.149-08:00Comments on The Overhead Wire: Post Christmas Day LinkagePantograph Trolleypolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17833159138533550544noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-13314152514901434642008-12-29T16:43:00.000-08:002008-12-29T16:43:00.000-08:00a transfer station where BART crosses the Centervi...<I>a transfer station where BART crosses the Centerville branch, for connections to ACE, Dumbarton Rail, and of course East Bay-San Jose commuter rail.</I><BR/><BR/>has there ever been any serious talk to build such a station?<BR/><BR/>it seems in that sweet spot where the existing stations (niles, centerville and fremont BART) are too far to walk between yet this new infill station would be too close to existing stations that the stops would be redundant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-32883257669494991242008-12-29T05:36:00.000-08:002008-12-29T05:36:00.000-08:00bikerider: BART has to first get to that 100 year ...bikerider: BART has to first get to that 100 year old ROW from the end of the existing line. Which requires crossing the park. Which possibly requires a subway. Which is all kind of absurd: I'd just build a commuter rail on the UP line and a transfer station where BART crosses the Centerville branch, for connections to ACE, Dumbarton Rail, and of course East Bay-San Jose commuter rail.crzwdjkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394805356595604336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-61091651295283049112008-12-27T20:27:00.000-08:002008-12-27T20:27:00.000-08:00BART Warm-Springs does not have to be in a subway....BART Warm-Springs does not have to be in a subway. It duplicates an 100-year old existing rail ROW -- owned by the public -- running along the edge of the park.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-51770902785788179792008-12-27T14:04:00.000-08:002008-12-27T14:04:00.000-08:00I've done some looking around, heated switches use...I've done some looking around, heated switches use between 60 and 260kW continuously. That's a heck of a lot of energy!njhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15278712220761294549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-43394508675015552952008-12-27T13:45:00.000-08:002008-12-27T13:45:00.000-08:00I had heard something about the Subway under the p...I had heard something about the Subway under the park but forgot till you mentioned it Jon. As for heated switches, i think Denver had a similar problem with a heater not working during a whiteout last year.Pantograph Trolleypolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17833159138533550544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-40110756477821537262008-12-27T13:43:00.000-08:002008-12-27T13:43:00.000-08:00yeah no heated switches in portland, while max and...yeah no heated switches in portland, while max and bus service had big delays and overall confusion as to what and when it was operating, the streetcar handled the storm extremely well with only minor delays. and of course as mentioned the tram performed excellently too. the streetcar always has good sized loads and gets very crowded at peak times but i have never see the streetcar more packed than during this storm.<BR/><BR/>dont quote me on it, but i think i read somewhere that heated switches are to be added to the entire system as part of one of the light rail or streetcar projects.<BR/><BR/>re: BART<BR/>i know the warm spring line has to go in a subway just south of the elevated fremont station to pass under a park and lake. would assume that would add a lot to the cost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-89625962199964151022008-12-27T12:48:00.000-08:002008-12-27T12:48:00.000-08:00They don't heat switches out there? That's quite d...They don't heat switches out there? That's quite dumb of them. Here in the East, pretty much every single power-operated switch on mainline track has a heater, either electric or gas, and it keeps things running quite well. Even when the snow has covered the rails completely, the switch points are completely clear of snow.crzwdjkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394805356595604336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-58852364529934266372008-12-27T12:31:00.000-08:002008-12-27T12:31:00.000-08:00Yes NJH, I was talking about the tram. I probably...Yes NJH, I was talking about the tram. I probably should have said "aerial tram" to keep it straight.Pantograph Trolleypolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17833159138533550544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-80350072991274684172008-12-27T12:11:00.000-08:002008-12-27T12:11:00.000-08:00"The Tram" refers to the aerial cable supported tr..."The Tram" refers to the aerial cable supported transport. The steel wheeled trams didn't fare as well, with frozen switches. <BR/><BR/>In Calgary I remember the switches were heated to prevent this problem. It seemed a rather expensive way to allow continued use (although it's probably only a tiny part of operating expenses I imagine it could be expensive to maintain. And they used to have problems with homeless people sleeping on them because they were warm :( ). I wonder if it would be possible to coat the moving surfaces of the rail with something which doesn't bond to ice (why doesn't it suffice to coat everything in grease?).njhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15278712220761294549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-57003604040404588182008-12-27T10:31:00.000-08:002008-12-27T10:31:00.000-08:00The BART cross-over track is not a $668 million pr...The BART cross-over track is not a $668 million project. It looks like the reporter transposed the BART Warm Springs number, which is listed directly above. BART Warm-Springs is "officially" a $668 million project (and unofficially $1+ billion).<BR/><BR/>Of course, one may then ask how on earth BART-Warm Springs can be a $668 million project for such a tiny amount of track.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com