tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post4967947981248635223..comments2024-01-12T00:32:20.149-08:00Comments on The Overhead Wire: Finally a Trips Comparison!Pantograph Trolleypolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17833159138533550544noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-49092481579656927452007-10-19T20:20:00.000-07:002007-10-19T20:20:00.000-07:00John you just switched from total regional trips t...John you just switched from total regional trips to total work trips, which is still what I called you out on the first time. That same Wendell Cox talking point which as Ben says isn't apples to apples. What about the corridor John?Pantograph Trolleypolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17833159138533550544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-1061410105402348112007-10-19T19:57:00.000-07:002007-10-19T19:57:00.000-07:00Um, yeah, so for WORK TRIPS ONLY, you see little c...Um, yeah, so for WORK TRIPS ONLY, you see little change - but as we've seen everywhere in the world, total trips change dramatically. So how about instead of misleading statistics, we compare apples to apples?<BR/><BR/>Oh, wait, we don't have to, because Portland already proved the point for us.Ben Schiendelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12868149806132033807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6609536178570975752.post-52656257303066610602007-10-19T18:23:00.000-07:002007-10-19T18:23:00.000-07:00This is an insightful request: "What I would like ...This is an insightful request: "What I would like to see is these 311,000 transit trips plus the calculation of walking trips generated from smarter development, specifically the trips that won't be taken by car."<BR/><BR/>In fact, the Puget Sound Regional Council (government-funded planning organization) has in fact made the calculation of transit and walk/bike mode shares, for 2040, with not only 70 miles of light rail in place, but with a full 125 miles of light rail OR equivalent fixed-guideway high capacity transit -- meaning busways that go where light rail tracks would go.<BR/><BR/>Results from computer modeling:<BR/><BR/>Walk/bike market share of work trips in 2000 was 4.5%. In 2040, with significant land use changes that concentrates more of the population around train stations, the walk/bike share would be 6.3%.<BR/><BR/>The transit share of work trips goes from 8.4% in 2000 to 11.3% in 2040. <BR/><BR/>The HOV (car pool/van pool) share stays constant at 7.5% in both 2000 and 2040.<BR/><BR/>The solo driving share drops from 79.5% in 2000 to 74.9% in 2040.<BR/><BR/>These results are for work trips only.<BR/><BR/>These numbers are the official case for voting yes on Prop 1.<BR/><BR/>Some environmental groups think these results show the "transformative value of light rail." <BR/><BR/>Sierra Club and Ron Sims evaluates these results as too little for the billions and billions to be spent to achieve them.<BR/><BR/>These results are buried in reports at www.psrc.org. I've extracted one of the reports, and moved the results to page 1 of the large pdf posted at <BR/>www.roadsandtransitfactual.info in a bulleted link titled "See transportation performance results from Prop 1 (plus even more light rail) published by government planners: Work trip transit share forecast to grow from 8.4% to 11.3%."<BR/><BR/>If you think this result is good enough for $157 billion, vote yes on Prop 1. I don't, so I'll vote no.jnileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08622331456545495103noreply@blogger.com